This, this is why my PS5 has been offline and waiting for hacks’
This is not even close to the reason that my PS5 has been offline, but it’s super neat and probably means we’re close to piracy.
Well the real reason is I built a PC and gave Sony the finger for jacking the price of premium. Again.
If I install Linux on a PS5, can I use the Blu-ray drive as a PC optical drive to rip DVD’s and shit?
I doubt it, but if so, maybe you can do UHD Blu-Rays too, since the PS5 can handle those.
Well, that’s pretty exciting. My PS5 is already on the latest firmware though lol
Can we not, like… Factory reset these things to roll back to whatever was installed when it was purchased? 🤔
Most consoles, if not all, have electronic fuses that are embedded inside chips that they intentionally blow out with each firmware update that prevent them from rolling back to older versions.
Are you serious? Wtf
Yes, it’s a common practice that’s been done right back to PS2 and Xbox360 days.
Because it’s still their console, even though you paid for it. They are just graciously letting you use it as long as you stay profitable to them.
lmao
Thats called a downgrade attack and is explicitly blocked by most modern security models that are not a PC.
That’s insane
Is it?
As a malicious actor or red-team player, I would want to get you on as old of an OS as I could in order to exploit a wider range of CVEs. Or in most cases, one would be hunting for a specific set of CVEs. Once I’ve got you on the version I want, I can then perform other attacks and ensure that they run.
The iPhone, many Android phones, some network equipment, and game consoles all have eFuses that burn when you perform an update, and the specific number or pattern they burn in is used to determine the lowest OS version your device is allowed to be on in order to stop this from happening.
I mean, my phone has all sorts of private and confidential information and is regularly in hostile environments where attackers might get physical access to it. Kinda want the best, most hardened security posture.
My Playstation sits in my living room and has my gaming history and access to my games…
It could also have your credit card info if you’ve set it up for the store. Which I imagine most people do, since many games don’t even get physical copies made anymore.
Ive worked with ecommerce enough to not store my card anywhere. Also pretty sure they’d store it in the cloud so could max it out in the store and I could claim the fraud.
But if your in my living room thinking, I’m going to sit down and hack his Playstation to get his credit card… Don’t know man, seems there’s better plans.
Back in March this year, security engineer and modder Andy Nguyen started experimenting with running Linux on the PS5. After months of testing and improvements, he has finally released PS5-Linux
Math was never my strongest point, but something doesent add up here.
Made sense to the LLM!
Math was never my strongest point
Think of it like a toddler.
The first 9 months, it’s not even an infant yet. Then boom, you get a baby. 6 months of development later you have a 6 month old toddler. But process started 15 months ago.
Yes, that would make sense, if not for the “started experimenting” part. I do understand the process here, its just that the writing is nonsensical (or AI).
It makes sense…
Just not to you…
Now that I’ve explained it, you agree that it can be taken that way, but still because you didn’t immediately take it the intended way, you see fault with the writing.
That is a very bad attitude to have.
Not immediately understanding what someone means is normal,happens to everyone.
But if after someone explains it in a way you get, doubling down that the writer was at fault aost guarantees you’re going to keep having this problem.
You cant force everyone everywhere to communicate in a way that you immediately get, you have to work on being able to view something multiple different ways and identifying thru context what was meant.
Like, just for purely selfish reasons, you want to be able to understand others
Yeah, I needed your explanation. I just could not conceive another interpretation, and choose to reject it. Without your guidance I could not into English dear sir! Thank you for your selfless benevolent assistance!
Right on, kind of still sounds sarcastic, but I’ll chalk that up to language issues.
Have a good one
Never bought a PS5, and def don’t plan on ever buying a console ever again. Long live emulators! Fuck you nintendo!!!
Well gotta turn off auto updates immediately.
Edit: by immediately I mean years ago, apparently.
I immediately blocked my ps5 from the internet when the Rom keys got leaked, but I too fear it was already too late
Good thing mine has been unplugged ever since I realized a docked steam deck paired with ps5 controllers was a way better experience than using the PS5 anyway
Ah yes games meant to play 720 looks great on a 4k tv…
Well yeah, I should note that my TV isn’t 4k and the games I play aren’t typically resource heavy. I’m talking about the overall user experience of being able to sleep/suspend quickly, go offline easily, the sense of ownership and control over the OS, and seamless handoff between the deck and my more serious gaming PC in my upstairs office. There’s a lot more to the UX than resolution and/or frame rate. I typically don’t even care as long as it’s 720p or better.
Why are you being booed? You make a point.
Because people don’t want to comprehend that a 720p machine won’t ever be better than something that can do 4k. They just want to be bitter.
A Wii isn’t better than a ps5 that’s just asinine.
Bad comparison. A wii and a PS5 run very different software, unlike a Steamdeck and a PC
Me, still playing 480p Wii games on my modded Wii with an old ass 1080p TV, having a blast
Sure, but that’s not better than playing games in 4k now is it? Yes it’s fun, but it’s objectively not “better”.
I personally think there’s a law of diminishing returns with things like graphics and resolution, and as technology advances, what used to be good or even amazing becomes our baseline as expectations shift.
Somewhat related to that, I’d also say there’s merit in sometimes analyzing if our chase for ‘better’ is truly bringing us enough value to warrant the downsides it brings. As an example, the market’s desire for the new and novel, for better graphics, for higher resolutions, feeds into a consumer culture that brings with it a tremendous amount of greenhouse emissions to produce and ship all those new consoles and higher resolution monitors/TVs, environmental destruction to mine the raw materials for them, exploitation of third world workers to gather those materials and assemble them into those products, products which as the OP points out, are increasingly user hostile and enshittified alongside those better graphics.
When looked at objectively, a Wii is a comparatively low resolution, but it is also widely available used (so while it did initially contribute to the downsides I mentioned above when new, as a used object on a second-hand market, it does not), and despite that lack of resolution, still brings with it the capability of giving us great fun, which is ultimately the reason we want to experience them, is it not? And due to its age, it has no enshittification whatsoever, the user completely owns the experience.
But that’s just my 2 cents.
… yes?
My partner has her PS4 plugged into our OLED 4K TV, and it looks great
And wouldn’t a ps5 be better though? Of course you can have fun, but it’s an objectively worse machine.
The PS5 costs lots of money, so it’s objectively worse
Compared to a steam deck? That’s not even close to being true.
The original comment compared it to a ps5, not a wii, not a ps4. Keep on topic.
Compared to a second hand PS4, which is what I was talking about.
Hell, I think my Xbox 360 has good graphics considering I got it out of a dumpster
Isn’t the PS5 already a fully functional gaming computer?
PSN required to play online games. Ongoing subscription, not cheap. So no, not fully functional, except as a pickpocket.
To access most of the internet you must pay a subscription. Plus the games you buy on the ps5 can’t be put on any other device.
I know this because I bought baldurs gate and Helldiver’s, and had to purchase them again on steam.
A ps5 and most consoles are a sunk-cost-fallacy machine.
The fact that steam games are cross platform is because you buy a license. Very rarely a cd-rom would have Mac and Windows in one, but in that regard desktops were mostly like consoles not so long ago.
You always only buy a license. Get a crack, then you own the game.
True but you can do that for consoles too (PS5 not yet), and this issue isn’t what makes them not a full PC.
Based on this list, it looks like you have to be sitting on a 2022 or earlier non-updated PS5 to have a chance at the 4.51 or lower firmware to use this. A chance it’ll open up to other firmwares and as said maybe there’s a limited functionality 5.xx exploit on the horizon, but just a bit of reality before you get too excited.
Didn’t the PS5 boot signing keys leak recently? The word when that happened was that it blew PS5 modding wide open in a way that couldn’t be closed without new hardware, though I guess publishing anything that used Sony’s key would have their lawyers after you real quick.
I wonder what would happen if people started mass posting the key like they did with the DVD DRM keys back in the day, though I’m sure the industry would be much more aggro these days
Like the orginal PS3?
Like the original PS2?
Like the original PS1?
Every time I think I know something.
